Talk:John Deere 420
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It's a 1984, and it has the upgraded P220G engine
Model of 1980s
Known Issues Forum Post
1) Check the differential case. The early 420s had two bolts holding it to the cross member that attached to the frame. When the frame flexed it sometimes cracked the case. They later went with a one bolt slotted design because of this. My case was cracked but had been welded.
2) Early 420s had a front PTO tensioner that was attached to the side of the frame. It's kind of hokey and make sure all of the parts are there and it works.
3) In 1983 the steering column was a 4 port instead of a 5 port. The big difference between them was how the fluid got to the steering column. On the 4 port the fluid went through the H3 valve first and on the 5 port it went to the steering column first. hat can happen is when lifting an implement (like the front blade) steering will become less responsive .
Onan B48G replacement motor
Here are a few options for repowering a John Deere 420:
Kohler Engines: Kohler offers replacement engines that can be used in John Deere 420 tractors. The Kohler Command series engines are a popular choice for repower kits.
Honda Engines: Honda engines are known for their reliability and may be available as part of a repower kit for the John Deere 420.
Briggs & Stratton Engines: Briggs & Stratton also offers engines that can be used to replace the Onan B48G.
Several companies specialize in repower kits for John Deere tractors, including:
Repower Specialists, Ltd.: They offer complete repower kits with Kohler engines specifically designed for John Deere models. Small Engine Warehouse: They provide repower kits and individual engines for various applications, including John Deere tractors. When considering a repower kit, ensure that it includes all necessary components and instructions for installation to make the process as smooth as possible.
Onan B43G in 420 vs 318
The B43G used in the JD 318 has 2hp less than the one used in the JD 420. The difference is in length of stroke by the piston/rod/crank.
B48, P220, or a P224, just make sure of the crank will fit PTO and the drive shaft length
The b48g are harder to find, in any case if my original engine fails will spend the money for a rebuild rather than buying a spare.
B&S Vangaurd engine
repowering == replace engine
repowering with anything but another Onen. Don't! Everyone I've talked to who have empowered their 318 or 420 have regretted it. I know someone who replaced his BG48 with a 23.5 Koehler. Says it just doesn't have the power it had with the Onen.
wouldn't repower with a different brand engine unless you need or desire a significant increase in HP and/or torque. Seeing as these machines were designed and optimized around the 18-20hp engines, anything more than that probably isn't very useful for most of us.
most Honda engines are built in China and I suspect the Predator is an exact copy of the Honda engine that they build for Honda.
research the onan b48 engine
smoke at startup and smell fumey all the time
Probably needs a head and valve decarbon job done, followed by valve adjustment. You might want to check the compression and check it to the minimum spec. Do you have the TM1590 and CTM2 manuals
Per the JD Tech. Manual 1590, minimum cylinder compression for the B48G is 100 psi per side & no more than 10 psi difference.
Smoke at start-up is pretty normal. So is the smell. The engine is an older flathead design that most people that know say yeah; are dirty, use more gas, etc., but can be rebuilt\repaired over & over, albeit not always cheaply. At 600 hrs. yours could probably benefit from a "decarbon job" & maybe is running rich -- an overhaul, that includes all new gasket & seals = could make it as good as it was new. 600 hrs. isn't a lot. True - now days, mechanics at JD dealerships usually don't have much experience working on a vintage machine like a JD 420 L&G tractor.
Engine Rebuild Kit B43 B48 onanparts.com
This is a complete rebuild kit that includes all major parts you need to make your Onan like new again.
Note: Most parts in this kit are available individually on this site. You can mix and match whatever you need. The full kit is intended for engines that have been overhauled several times in the past or just plain run into the ground and are severely worn.
You must specify the following in the "comment box" at checkout:
Engine Model: B43E, B43G, B43M , B48G or B48M Along with Spec Number. Piston Size: STD. .010" .020" or .030" Oversize. Con Rod Size: STD. .010" .020" or .030" Undersize. Main Bearing Size: STD. .010" .020" or .030" undersize.
NOTE: If no sizes are indicated by you all parts shipped will be STD.
Rebuild Kit includes:
- Two Pistons with Rings & Wrist Pins:
- Two Con Rods:
- Two Main Bearings:
- Two Cam Bearings:
- Two Intake Valves:
- Two Exhaust Valves:
- Two Intake Guides:
- Two Exhaust Guides:
- Four Valve Springs:
- Valve Locks/Keepers:
- One Rebuilt Oil Pump: New pumps no longer available.
- One Oil By-Pass Spring:
- One 168-0187 Gasket & Seal Kit:
